Bwah hah.

Apr. 23rd, 2004 12:12 pm
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Something interesting I read --

Kids shouldn't be reading or writing slash. And they are probably only
writing it because they've read it from some adult site or zine. I doubt
that they would have come up with the idea on there [sic] own.


*raises hand* Ooh! Ooh! I was writing Legolas/Gimli when I was twelve. Xena/Gabrielle when I was thirteen or fourteen. Fraser/Vecchio when I was seventeen. Of these -- only the Fraser/Vecchio after my awareness of the existence of slash online. And I would have written it ANYWAY.

So c'mon, people on my flist. Anybody else out there writing slash when they were underage and/or unaware of the existence of it as an actual "thing"? Tell, tell.

Date: 2004-04-23 04:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lannamichaels
I wrote Harry/Draco when I was sixteen.
If I ever get drunk enough, maybe I'll post it. *g*

Date: 2004-04-24 12:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashinae.livejournal.com
Harry/Draco! HP really is a bad influence on kids ;)

Date: 2004-04-23 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keelywolfe.livejournal.com
I was writing original gay fiction when I was about 14. I didn't actually write fanfiction until I got out of high school, but i think that counts. ;)

Date: 2004-04-24 12:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashinae.livejournal.com
Oh, I think it counts, too! :D

Date: 2004-04-23 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thisside.livejournal.com
My sister and I did. We would write out little role plays between various characters and celebrities and our own "Mary Sue" type characters, but then the odd men out always ended up getting together with each other. *lol*

Date: 2004-04-24 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashinae.livejournal.com
Sounds perfectly normal to me. I mean, what else are teenage girls supposed to write about, other than Mary Sues and m/m action? I think this is far healthier than poetry about death. I'd be way more worried about the latter, than the former, if I had a teenage daughter who wrote.

This got long. Sorry ;)

Date: 2004-04-23 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] empy.livejournal.com
I found the wondrous world of slash at the tender age of fourteen. The year was 1995, the browser to use Netscape 3.0 beta, and bandwidth grew on trees. I stumbled onto alt.books.anne-rice, saw that some of the stories posted actually featured male/male couples, and was promptly hooked. Before that, I had thought I was really quirky for wanting to see actual explicit action between the male characters. Most of my peers didn't even want to read het romances of the Harlequin stock at that age.

The only trauma I carry because of that early find is that the early VampChron fandom was overrun by Mary Sues, and you really had to sift to find the slash. Hence I'm not blaming slash for anything ;) Except for eating my life.

I didn't post in that first fandom, but I certainly read, speculated and imagined. At great length, too. I had done so before, but there was always the nagging thought of "You can't imagine THAT!" (Legolas and Gimli were *the* couple of fantasy lit in my prepubescent mind, but you certainly couldn't talk about that to your friends. At least not to the few friends I had then.). I think I wrote my first fics at about fifteen or sixteen, stories now lost in the mists of history and broken floppies. I didn't talk about them, since the rule of Finnish junior high schools was that teh gay!fic never existed. Fanfic never existed. I didn't even meet another Finnish slasher until I was nineteen(!).

So yeah, I found slash on my own, and was into it long before I was legal. And I'm none the worse for it.

Re: This got long. Sorry ;)

Date: 2004-04-24 01:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashinae.livejournal.com
First -- Squee! Legolas/Gimli.

So you may not have been writing slash before you got the Internet -- but you were not "lured" into it like a dark underground society by wicked adults *G* I don't think any kid would ever be traumatised by seeing any sort of sexuality, but then I'm some weirdo who would much rather my kids (if I were to have them, of course) saw naked people than graphic violence!

Date: 2004-04-23 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thedevilchicken.livejournal.com
Oh, me, me! I was writing terrible slashfic when I was about twelve... albeit as a juicy sidedish to abominable Mary Sues. Ohhh, and it was RPS too, and even scarier is that it was Formula One racing driver RPS. I didn't have a comp and I live miles from anything, let alone slashers, so trust me, I hadn't a clue about fanfic at the time.

Also, there's the Jack/Daniel Stargate fic I was writing when I was about 16, and the Fraser/RayK from when I as 17 (what can I say, I came to it late. *g*). I guess FPS didn't really occur to me before I saw it online, but the RPS? Oh yeah ;)

Date: 2004-04-24 01:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashinae.livejournal.com
Aha! More slashfic and Mary Sues! Perfectly normal, I tells ya.

Date: 2004-04-23 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loyaldreamer.livejournal.com
I personally didn't start writing full slash til I was around 18, though I was writing erotic fiction when I was 15 or 16, started hinting at writing slash around then to.

Date: 2004-04-24 01:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashinae.livejournal.com
It seems that everyone I know who writes erotica, has done so since they were a teenager. Somehow I'm not at all surprised by this *G*

Date: 2004-04-23 06:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] cinzia.livejournal.com
O_o Bzuh?

I was writing yaoi and Iliad slash when I was 15, original gay fiction and RPS (soccer players and boyband slash omg) when I was 16. First slash fandom I found online was X-Files, when I was 23. So I'd say 'hahahah!' to whomever said that. *points to quote above* *mirth* ;)

Date: 2004-04-24 01:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashinae.livejournal.com
O_o Bzuh?

You know, those were my EXACT words. Well, those, and "Lord, what a dumbass." I knew there was no way that I was alone in not having any outside influence on my slashing! *G*

Date: 2004-04-23 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] belenajake.livejournal.com
I was slashing Kirk and Spock in my head when I was a wee pup, and lied on a release to buy my first K/S fanzine when I was 13...I remember being so thrilled to find out about them because other people actually *gasp* felt the same way I did! That was a looooooooong time ago, well before the internet and its easy access.

Date: 2004-04-23 09:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cruisedirector
I had the same experience, though I did not discover the zines till I was 18...thought I was a pervert alone in my perversion until then! *g* But I was slashing them, though not writing it, from the time I was a preadolescent, though of course I didn't know that term at the time...

Date: 2004-04-23 08:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] missizzy
When I was eight, I watched a TV series about Babar and his friends, including his two advisors, Cornelious and Pompadour. Thr latter was very aptly named, dressed in pink, and for the longest time, I was convinced he was a she, and that Pompadour and Cornelius should get married. Then I saw the episode "Friendly Agreement" and was devestated to hear Pompadour referred to as "he," because I had so wanted them to get married! But as I continued to watch through that particular episode(about their friendship, and my favourite episode because of that and because Isabelle played a very big role, and I loved her because she had my name), I wondered if perhaps they could get married anyway? I count that as my first slash moment.

Date: 2004-04-24 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashinae.livejournal.com
OMG Babarslash! LOL! You started young ;)

Date: 2004-04-23 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ichinoshi.livejournal.com
*raises hand* Been writing slash since I started writing like in the fifth grade. I started reading the Animorphs and thought Tobias/Jake was a much better pairing than Tobias/Rachel. I didn't know more people wrote slash until Gundam Wing. ^^()

Date: 2004-04-24 01:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashinae.livejournal.com
Whoo! Another young'un. Always good *g* I think when we do not teach our children that two men or two women can't be together, they wouldn't see why anything would be such a problem, and go with their instincts. *nodnod* At least, I know that's how it worked for me!

Date: 2004-04-23 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] midnightmagics.livejournal.com
Been writing slash since I was fifteen ^^

Date: 2004-04-24 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashinae.livejournal.com
Internet first? Or completely on your own? :)

Date: 2004-04-24 02:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] midnightmagics.livejournal.com
well I knew it was out there, but I wrote my own before I actully got around to reading any of it

Date: 2004-04-23 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sahari.livejournal.com
I was considering doing some m/m incest slash (or hints thereof) when I was 13. I was, of course, too chicken-shit to do it because I knew my friends (who helped me with story ideas) would completely freak.

I got over it. :P

S

Date: 2004-04-24 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashinae.livejournal.com
Hee! And I'm glad you did *G*

Date: 2004-04-23 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] as-i-am.livejournal.com
OH yes. When I was 13, I was writing these secret little stories in my notebooks about the guys in Def Leppard. *cough* What? I was thirteen and lame!

I didn't discover it was called 'slash' until I got the internet in 2000, but I was certainly writing it before then, albeit secretly. ALWAYS secretly. Discovering that other people loved it was like finding paradise on Earth.

You know, you'll find that a lot of slashers loved slash at a young age and were predisposed to it from the get-go almost. I find that terribly fascinating. It's almost like another sexuality (like homosexuality or heterosexuality). Something you can't control, it's just who you ARE. I'd love to see a study done on it.

Date: 2004-04-24 03:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashinae.livejournal.com
I think a study on this would be very, very interesting. The slash is as part of me as being bi or being a blonde *G* It was always there -- though it was all quite secret until I started posting my Due South slash when I was 18. I've also been very lucky to have two very open-minded friends -- one who is pretty much as into the slash as I am, the other who may not actively be a slasher, but certainly isn't squicked by it.

Date: 2004-04-24 01:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sam42.livejournal.com
I've been pairing guys up in my head since I was 8 or so.

Date: 2004-04-24 03:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashinae.livejournal.com
Wow, man *G* I think I'm impressed. I never started doing any couples of any sort in my head until I reached the double digits. While I recognise now that I certainly had crushes on various TV or movie characters before, I was a bit of a late bloomer in not acknowledging these sorts of things until I was about 10. *g*

Date: 2004-04-24 01:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rubykate.livejournal.com
When I was about eight I used to play Famous Five with my playmobil figures, with every single character mentioned in the books and as there's only about three girls compared to about eight boys, I decided the practical thing to do would be to turn some of the boys gay. And I can't remember a time before I shipped Frodo/Sam.

When I first told my mum about slash and fanfic she said, "Oh, if only the internet had been about when I was your age! I was always making up gay alternatives to my favourite books." Heheh.

Date: 2004-04-24 03:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashinae.livejournal.com
I'm quite envious of the fact that you obviously come from an open-minded environment! While it was never drilled into my head when I was young that gay = bad, and my parents DID let me make up my mind about almost everything, they'd certainly not be approving of my slashy interests. But it does seem that for a fair number slashers, when we were young, it just sort of came naturally -- though of course others, like a friend of mine, certainly had to be introduced to it from an outside source. I'm very intrigued :)

Date: 2004-04-24 05:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rubykate.livejournal.com
Since I told my mum about slash she's forever nagging me to write a pornographic novel for easy money, ignoring the fact I'm far too disorganised to write an actual novel. :/ But I'm glad really that she's so open-minded about the whole thing. Her best friend is gay and he's always been a bit of an uncle figure to us so for me homosexuality was never really a mysterious thing like it is for some kids, I think.

What I find interesting is that me and my sister (my only sibling) have both turned out to be bisexual, and known so from a fairly young age - sometimes I wonder if its because we grew up in such an open minded enviroment, just seems kind of too much of a coincedence, in a way.

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