Heroes - 1x23 - How to Stop an Exploding Man

[ashinae]

HAS THIS ICON EVER BEEN MORE APPROPRIATE? OH MY GOD I DON'T THINK SO.

HOW DO I DO THIS.

I knew, I knew, I knew, I KNEW, that's how it would wrap itself up. I knew. Peter's vision -- he was directly responsible for the deaths of Simone and Nathan. But I didn't want it to happen. As soon as he swooped down from the sky -- I realised, that despite his faults, or maybe because of those faults, Nathan was my favourite character on that show. Hands down. The most complex. Everything.

OH NATHAN.

God, I am incoherent here.

OK, so, thoughts.

· Mohinder's speech from "Genesis"! ♥ With a beautiful montage of our heroes, and how far they've come, and all the newness in his speechifying.

· Aw, Matt & Molly. Look at her SMILE!

· "I will not abandon my friend." ♥ OH NAKAMURAS. You are too much awesome for my pants.

· Please to be making Sylar stop being so fucking HOT. And so now he's obsessed with not only Mohinder, but also Peter, ha ha. Don't blame him. Also -- I love the whole sequence with him painting, seeing the vision in his fully white eyes, and that he's painting without paintbrushes.

· Oh FLYING MAN. He's already sent Heidi, Simon, and Monty away. Also, Mama P? That's some bad touch right there. Runs in this family, dude.

· Christ. I waffle so much on the Niki/Jessica/DL/Micah storyline thing. But I do NOT want DL to die. I like DL and Niki together.

· (I keep glancing up at my icon and wanting to cry some more. OH NATHAN.)

· Mohinder and Phil getting rid of Thompson's body. And oh protective!Mohinder is too hot for me. He's gonna take care of Molly!

· HA HA Peter on the pink cell phone. *cough*

· So Peter's taking them to go meet with Nathan. And reading Claire's thoughts. But he needs his big brother! Because he's scared, oh, woobie. And I like that Peter's over his whole "I'M GONNA ASPLODE" thing and focused on Sylar being the bomb.

· Claire? Honey? Whatcha doin'? -- And now Peter's reading Nathan's mind, and feeling betrayed, as he should, because Nathan's a tool, and Claire ran right off into Mama Petrelli, and Peter's running now too.

· Jesus, Mama P looked downright sinister.

· Also, just like Ted, Pete starts going nuclear when he gets overwrought. OH PETER.

· PS: Dear Angela Petrelli, you're a bad influence on your oldest son. LET HIM BE A HERO. JESUS CHRIST. Ambivalent Feelings Today, ashinae.

· Nathan needs to redeem himself. He needs to help Peter.

· "up and running" -- ha ha. Oh, Matt and Mohinder and Molly. ♥ WHO IS WORSE THAN SYLAR!? OH MY GOD. Is that our season 2 big bad? "When I think about him he can see me." FUCKING CREEPY.

· Aw, Mohinder never got to meet Isaac! :( Who appears to be remaining dead.

· Nathan and Angela are trying to take care of Claire -- but AGH. NATHAN. STOP BEING A TOOL. They need her to stay and help! They need Nathan to stay and help!

· "Not without Petrelli. We need to find him." And Matt's going after Sylar alone. OH MATT YOU DUMMY.

· Ooh, is this the past? Simone and Charles Deveaux! Peter must be witnessing this to see the conversation between his mum and Charles. (Oh, Peter, you poet you.)

· Yup. This is important. Charles bet on Peter to be a hero -- and he didn't want the whole bomb thing to happen. OK SO -- Linderman, Petrellis Senior, Nakamura, Deveaux. -- Interesting conversation, about how one can tell when their kids "manifest", as such. And Jesus Peter's family just keeps on disappointing him.

· See, I'd thought Pete got the ability from Deveaux, initially. But, then, he'd only just graduated from nursing school when he had his first dream/vision (Nathan & Heidi's accident) -- he wouldn't have been taking care of Charles yet. Then I thought his mum. WHO THEN?

· omg Ando omg Ando omg ANDO.

· ... Oh, Sylar. You're so yay. You and your preposterous eyebrows!

· OH HIRO. "I'm here to save you." OH. OH.

· CHRIST, Candace, this isn't nice. I'm over liking you.

· Gee, Sylar's getting lots of gentlemen callers today. Heh.

· "No. He's not on his way. He's already here." DUN DUN DUN!

· Aw. Pictures. :( Nathan, STOP BEING A TOOL. JUST STOP. YOU'RE BEING A TOOL. (Oh, touchy-feely Petrellis) -- GO CLAIRE GO! NATHAN! FOLLOW HER! YOU CAN FLY, YOU TOOL!

· (I wish Hana was in this, being gorgeous and awesome. And also gorgeous.)

· Oh, go Niki! I imagine parts of Jessica will linger, but the ability was always Niki's -- the Jessica personality was just the one who could tap into it, because she was willing to use it.

· Mohinder! Trying to save DL! He's so Dr Batman.

· Oh, Hiro took Ando home to keep him safe! "One day people will tell the story of Hiro Nakamura." ♥ "It is not the sword. It is the man. The man is ready." "Hiro! You look bad ass." And Ando looks kind of lost. :(

· "You needed to hear the truth before you saved the world." Aw, Peter. All you need is love, baby!

· Phil found Peter! It should have been Nathan. :( EXCEPT HIS NAME IS NOAH! OH I LOVE IT! And I get points for it being four letters long, right? Right? (We still don't know what the Haitian's name is, so I'm still calling him GEORGE.)

· Okay, Molly/Micah OTP for YAY. Y/N?

· Oh they are all coming to the same place as in Peter's vision. So Nathan will make his late entrance and...

· I DON'T WANT AN EXCLUSIVE LOOK AT THE SILVER SURFER I WANT THE LAST TEN MINUTES OF MY SHOW NBC YOU BASTARD GIVE ME MY SHOW

· "Haven't I killed you before?" "Didn't take." OH PETER. ♥

· OH MY GOD, MATT. OH MOHINDER, GOTTA SAVE EVERYBODY. GO NIKI WITH THE KICKASS OF KICKASSITUDE. And now Peter's got her super strength.

· "Turns out you're the villain, Peter. I'm the hero."

· "Yatta." Holy shit, Hiro. Holy crap. PETER. WHERE IS YOUR BIG BROTHER. OR YOUR NIECE. And the music and the no words until "Do it" and

· NATHAN OH MY GOD NATHAN I KNEW IT.

· "I'm not leaving you, Peter."

· "You saved the cheerleader, so we could save the world."

· "I love you, Nathan." "I love you too, Peter."

· So, Grunberg's four uncertain fates: Matt, Peter, Nathan, Sylar. Three of them are alive. One of them is dead. And oh god it's Nathan. NATHAN. I knew, I knew, I knew, but oh my god NATHAN.

· "Please don't die, officer Parkman. You're my hero." And because wee sweet Molly (Mohinder gonna adopt her? HEE) said that, Matt'll live.

· Is Mohinder in tears? Oh MOHINDER.

· "You've got a plan, right?"

· And Sylar dragged himself away. "End of volume one."

· "Volume Two" -- "Generations."

· Hiro! Where are you, baby? DUDE SAMURAI. SAMURAI! Outside Kyoto, Japan, 1671. -- Dude. George Takei is totally playing Kensei. -- Also? Eclipse.

OH SHOW. OH NATHAN. OH PETER.

OH NATHAN.

So, yeah. Ash had a good cry tonight.

Comments

[sol-se.livejournal.com]

I refuse to believe he's dead!!! Nope, in denial. He could have let go of Peter & flown away. Peter'd survive that. HE IS STILL ALIVE DAMNIT! Oh, Nathan.

I was thinking that Peter got the visions from Charles too, but you're right. He did get his first one before he started working for him. Maybe from his Dad, then? Maybe that's why the dad killed himself? Because he couldn't take the visions anymore?

[ashinae.livejournal.com]

*flail* Oh god. I need Nathan to be alive. THERE IS NO BODY. It did not happen on screen! I am both in denial and devastated.

Maybe from his Dad, then? Maybe that's why the dad killed himself? Because he couldn't take the visions anymore?

Ooh. I'd buy that; I'd been thinking that maybe it was set up to look like a suicide, but if he saw his baby boy blowing up and destroying New York... *nod*

I'm still not convinced that Mama Petrelli doesn't have a power, though.

Next season! Next season apparently we're going to get lots of story about the previous generation (Petrellis, Linderman, Nakamura, Deveaux...) so *crosses fingers*

[http://users.livejournal.com/_xanthia/]

· (I wish Hana was in this, being gorgeous and awesome. And also gorgeous.)

*sputters* please be stopping with the confusing me! This is so taking more time to get used to than I thought it would be. I keep having to remind myself it is entirely possible that other people can have my name. I'm so used to it being mine, and mine alone though.

Anyway, still a few episodes behind, although I think that hiatus(es?) you guys had gave us a chance to catch up, at least a little. But still behind and I can't keep away from spoilers, naturally.

[ashinae.livejournal.com]

Oh, you poor thing! Hee! Heroes!Hana is just as awesome as you! *hugs*

[lannamichaels]

I was doing a while-watching thing on skating boards and I wrote about halfway through the ep that Nathan better damn well be stringing Mama Petrelli along. Gladdest I have ever been that he was.

So much ♥ for Peter and Sylar and Mohinder. They need to have a quasiEvil!futureverse!orgy.


THE BROTHERS LOVE EACH OTHER. OH MY GOD DID YOU HEAR THE BROTHERS LOVE EACH OTHER! LIKE IN CANON AND STUFF!!! IT'S THE SUICIDE PACT THAT LAUNCHED A THOUSAND FICS!

[ashinae.livejournal.com]

I was doing a while-watching thing on skating boards and I wrote about halfway through the ep that Nathan better damn well be stringing Mama Petrelli along. Gladdest I have ever been that he was.

Oh me too. Nathan was GOOD. His Mummy is NOT. :(

THE BROTHERS LOVE EACH OTHER. OH MY GOD DID YOU HEAR THE BROTHERS LOVE EACH OTHER! LIKE IN CANON AND STUFF!!!

BEAT THAT, DEAN AND SAM. THERE WAS A SMOOCH AND THEN A DECLARATION OF LOVE. IT DOES NOT GET ANY BETTER THAN THAT UNLESS THERE IS MAKING OUT.

[loyaldreamer.livejournal.com]

Okay, so my MAJOR thought - you know the future episode? I'm thinking it's still a possibility, w/o Sylar being able to get Nathan's ability. Maybe :)

[ashinae.livejournal.com]

Oh, I think you're right. Even if Nathan is dead, I would not be surprised to see Mama Petrelli have Candace impersonate Nathan, or for Sylar to track Candace down, and impersonate Nathan. Oh this SHOW.

[lannamichaels]

Did Candace not die? I thought she did?

[ashinae.livejournal.com]

I don't THINK so; I'm not sure that Niki hit her hard enough to kill her. Maybe she did!

[ajodasso.livejournal.com]

"Hiro! You look bad ass." And Ando looks kind of lost. :(

I'm repeating this as a mantra: the sword-exchange is a promise, the sword-exchange is a promise...

(I do think we'll see Ando again. It's just plain sense. Frankly, I'm thrilled to death that they're both alive and well, and that they still have each other, even if Hiro is currently in No-Man's Land, Japan, 1671.)

[ashinae.livejournal.com]

Oh! It is SO a promise. Hiro is coming back for Ando and they'll have more adventures.

As soon as Hiro gets himself out of the 17th century.

[ajodasso.livejournal.com]

Here's hoping. Fervently!

[ashinae.livejournal.com]

I have a few Heroes OTPs, but Hiro&Ando is almost transcendent of all of that. Whether they're friends or lovers or whatever -- they just belong together.

[ajodasso.livejournal.com]

You know, the scary thing is, I can see the argument for Sylar/Mohinder. I don't think I could ever write them, as Sylar makes me want to smash things, but there have been a lot of moments on the show where I've paused and then said, "Um...yeah. Wow." H/A is really my only Heroes pairing. "Transcendent" is a great word for them!

[ashinae.livejournal.com]

With Heroes I'm pretty free with pairings -- generally, I'm not a hardcore OTP'er -- but Hiro/Ando is just right. I thought Hiro was darn cute with Charlie, but I have a tendency to stick my fingers in my ears and go LA LA LA PASSING FANCY. However, if either of the boys ends up with a girl, I'll be fine provided this remains that friendship that, yes, transcends everything else. Because it's possible; I've got one of those.

Apparently, and I can't back this up with actual sources and only with what I've read people saying it, was that Sylar was originally actually supposed to be gay, but Kring changed his mind (to be honest, I'm sort of glad, because we don't need gay villains on hit shows, we really don't). So I can kind of see some of that as canon subtext with how Sylar responds to Mohinder. I can gleefully, evilly, go there with those two, but I couldn't see sunshine, lollipops, and rainbows in the end. Admittedly, I enjoy watching Sylar, but I don't know how much of that is that it's Zachary Quinto I'm enjoying, and that Quinto and Sendhil Ramamurthy have electric chemistry.

That's where Hiro/Ando come in. ;)

(Sorry for nattering; I am waiting to leave for a doctor's appointment and don't have much else to do for the next ten minutes...)

[ajodasso.livejournal.com]

(Oh, hey, no problem - if I'm helping you waste time, then I'll consider it time well spent ;) Actually, this chat is enjoyable to the point that I've been contemplating friending you; I always ask first, though.)

Sylar was supposed to be Gay? Really! That would explain some of the definite vestigial traces, then. And he and Sendhil do have some of the most amazing chemistry I've ever seen between two male actors on TV. Still, it's never a mere hotness factor that will hook me; it's usually the pairings with high emotional content, and that's definitely H/A in my book.

I think I heard rumors somewhere that there may be planned love-interests for them in S2. I suppose I have a few mixed feelings on this, although in the case of Charlie I definitely do think it was passing infatuation and Hiro really, desperately wanting to do something good (as usual). They were adorable together, I have to agree - but I can't picture anyone more adorable with Hiro than Ando.

[ashinae.livejournal.com]

(Oh, hey, no problem - if I'm helping you waste time, then I'll consider it time well spent ;) Actually, this chat is enjoyable to the point that I've been contemplating friending you; I always ask first, though.)

Hee! The more the merrier. If my level of perviness doesn't scare you off. :)

Sylar was supposed to be Gay? Really! That would explain some of the definite vestigial traces, then.

Like I said, I cannot find first-source confirmation for this, but... well, it just kinda makes a LOT of sense.

And he and Sendhil do have some of the most amazing chemistry I've ever seen between two male actors on TV.

Preach it!

Still, it's never a mere hotness factor that will hook me; it's usually the pairings with high emotional content, and that's definitely H/A in my book.

I try so hard not to be superficial! I'm that way with my het OTPs, really, and normally with the slashy ones, but but but there are times where I just have to throw my hands up in the air and go "Dammit, they're just too hot for me!" At least they have screen time together and interact and stuff. That becomes my last requirement, y'know? "Do they talk to each other on several occasions? Yes? All right, fine, I give up!"

I think I heard rumors somewhere that there may be planned love-interests for them in S2. I suppose I have a few mixed feelings on this,

I already do! I'd really like to see them carry on with just being Hiro-and-Ando for a while, particularly now that Hiro's in the 17th century and Ando's in the present and they're both ALONE.

although in the case of Charlie I definitely do think it was passing infatuation and Hiro really, desperately wanting to do something good (as usual).

And, well, speaking as someone as hopelessly geeky as Hiro, the fact that she took some interest in him must have played some small part in that. But that's just me projecting. (Seriously, if I was anyone on that show, I'd be Hiro.)

They were adorable together, I have to agree - but I can't picture anyone more adorable with Hiro than Ando.

*waves a wee banner in support of this*

[ajodasso.livejournal.com]

(Perviness scare me? Hee, no, never.)

I wouldn't call Sylar/Mohinder shallow, though - they actually have a lot of interaction in addition to being hot, so I can see why people can produce S/M work with substance. They're just...not quite my bag, and, as I said, Sylar makes me mad more than half the time.

Yeah - the two of them being parted makes for bad circumstances, under which the screenwriter(s) might be tempted to toss in love-interests fairly quickly. Then again, if they can have Ando waiting so patiently at that diner...

[ashinae.livejournal.com]

(Perviness scare me? Hee, no, never.)

( \o/ Whee! That's always a plus, of course. I enjoy perviness. )

I wouldn't call Sylar/Mohinder shallow, though

This reassures me MUCHLY.

Sylar makes me mad more than half the time.

I think it's funny how it's like the fandom is just dead split on the issue of whether or not they like Sylar. Same with Peter.

Then again, if they can have Ando waiting so patiently at that diner...

Exactly! There's a ... what's the word I'm looking for? Precedence? They need to stick with that! :D

[ajodasso.livejournal.com]

I knew what I thought about Sylar from pretty early on, although my opinion on Peter varies from day to day, nearly, I kid you not. Sometimes I catch myself feeling quite fond of him, and other times, I'm just sort of thinking, okay, get off the screen, Emo-Boy, so I can get back to watching Hiro and Ando.

Yes, precedence. I'm assuming they will go with it, as having Hiro put that sword in his hands with such a weighty promise is not something to go back on, not if they collectively have half a brain left (what with Sylar still on the loose).

[denorios.livejournal.com]

I don't want Nathan to be dead! *cries* Nathan is my favourite character too and I will cry big fat emo tears if he's not back next season.

[ashinae.livejournal.com]

Oh BOYS. Oh my dear, DEAR BOYS. D: They can't be separated. Not after all this! *clings*

[creatrix]

<--- is finally caught up! Can finally traverse the Internet safely, and haunt the icon comms again!

Since Mohinder's Wardrobe of Fabulousness seems to have disappeared (WOE!), his power seems to have migrated to his hair, because his hair seems to be a differing length almost every episode. I miss the semi-longish curls. Sigh.

When Claire ran off and ran into Mama, I was convinced Mama was actually Candice. Me = wrong.

Yay for Charles!

So.... Niki's actual power is superstrength, ha? And the Jessica thing was sorta... just her psychology?

Molly has the potential to be very, very creepy. (Given some of the closing shots, I can see Niki and DL taking her in and taking care of her. Dad!Mohinder would be adorable, but not the safest environment for one of the most important powers either.)

Where is the Haitian? Dammit. I miss him.

<--- not convinced that Linderman is dead. Yet.

Hiro! Nathan! Peter! ARGH! I don't know who to flail over first!

[creatrix]

Also? When you move to Alberta, I should get some musical talent and we should start a band:

Sylar and His Preposterous Eyebrows.

Best band name ever.